> The cheapest dial-up yields at least one busy signal > every third day and downloads 24-48 kbps. > Another one rarely has a busy signal, downloads 24-48, and has a nice > Usenet server. > The third one never has a busy signal but dowload speed never tops 28. > Total monthly cost for all 3 is about the same as one DSL which is now > available here. > Sure would like to have DSL to see video clips, youtube, etc. > Unfortunately, the reports about DSL product reliability and lousy > support have scared me off.
More fool you. My DSL has been much more reliable than dialup ever was.
> The cheapest dial-up yields at least one busy signal every third day > and downloads 24-48 kbps.
> Another one rarely has a busy signal, downloads 24-48, and has a nice > Usenet server.
> The third one never has a busy signal but dowload speed never tops 28.
> Total monthly cost for all 3 is about the same as one DSL which is now > available here.
> Sure would like to have DSL to see video clips, youtube, etc.
> Unfortunately, the reports about DSL product reliability and lousy > support have scared me off.
Join the 21st Century and get DSL. Plenty of people have DSL and never experience a problem. If you like Unenet, you may want to keep the dialup that has the good usenet server. You may be able to log into the server from your DSL connection. Try it and see.
>> The cheapest dial-up yields at least one busy signal every third day >> and downloads 24-48 kbps.
>> Another one rarely has a busy signal, downloads 24-48, and has a nice >> Usenet server.
>> The third one never has a busy signal but dowload speed never tops 28.
>> Total monthly cost for all 3 is about the same as one DSL which is now >> available here.
>> Sure would like to have DSL to see video clips, youtube, etc.
>> Unfortunately, the reports about DSL product reliability and lousy >> support have scared me off.
>Join the 21st Century and get DSL. Plenty of people have DSL >and never experience a problem. If you like Unenet, you may >want to keep the dialup that has the good usenet server. You may >be able to log into the server from your DSL connection. Try it >and see.
Sure would like to.
Yeah, I understand that you can keep a dial-up for back up but need to remove the DSL stuff and revert to the dial-up wiring and connection set-up.
>> The cheapest dial-up yields at least one busy signal every third day >> and downloads 24-48 kbps.
>> Another one rarely has a busy signal, downloads 24-48, and has a nice >> Usenet server.
>> The third one never has a busy signal but dowload speed never tops >> 28.
>> Total monthly cost for all 3 is about the same as one DSL which is >> now available here.
>> Sure would like to have DSL to see video clips, youtube, etc.
>> Unfortunately, the reports about DSL product reliability and lousy >> support have scared me off. > Join the 21st Century and get DSL. Plenty of people have DSL > and never experience a problem. If you like Unenet, you may > want to keep the dialup that has the good usenet server. You may > be able to log into the server from your DSL connection. Try it and see.
Makes a hell of a lot more sense to use a decent usenet server instead.
>>> The cheapest dial-up yields at least one busy signal every third day >>> and downloads 24-48 kbps.
>>> Another one rarely has a busy signal, downloads 24-48, and has a >>> nice Usenet server.
>>> The third one never has a busy signal but dowload speed never tops >>> 28.
>>> Total monthly cost for all 3 is about the same as one DSL which is >>> now available here.
>>> Sure would like to have DSL to see video clips, youtube, etc.
>>> Unfortunately, the reports about DSL product reliability and lousy >>> support have scared me off.
>> Join the 21st Century and get DSL. Plenty of people have DSL >> and never experience a problem. If you like Unenet, you may >> want to keep the dialup that has the good usenet server. You may >> be able to log into the server from your DSL connection. Try it >> and see. > Sure would like to. > Yeah, I understand that you can keep a dial-up for back up
Depends on how reliable the DSL is and what reliability you need.
> but need to remove the DSL stuff and revert to the dial-up wiring and connection set-up.
>>> The cheapest dial-up yields at least one busy signal every third day >>> and downloads 24-48 kbps.
>>> Another one rarely has a busy signal, downloads 24-48, and has a nice >>> Usenet server.
>>> The third one never has a busy signal but dowload speed never tops 28.
>>> Total monthly cost for all 3 is about the same as one DSL which is now >>> available here.
>>> Sure would like to have DSL to see video clips, youtube, etc.
>>> Unfortunately, the reports about DSL product reliability and lousy >>> support have scared me off.
>>Join the 21st Century and get DSL. Plenty of people have DSL >>and never experience a problem. If you like Unenet, you may >>want to keep the dialup that has the good usenet server. You may >>be able to log into the server from your DSL connection. Try it >>and see.
> Sure would like to.
> Yeah, I understand that you can keep a dial-up for back up but need to > remove the DSL stuff and revert to the dial-up wiring and connection > set-up.
Nope. They can co-exist. Dial up will still use your modem and the DUN to establish the connection. DSL will use a NIC (network connection).
I was thinking more in terms of maintianing access to the news server. Most of the big national telcomms were blackmailed by NY state Atty Como into dropping most of the news groups from their servers except for the big eight hierarchies. So now it is necessary to have access to a better news server if you want to get the alt groups. You can buy into a priemium server it you like. But if the dialup ISP with the good server is cheap enough, it may be worth it to maintain a user account just to have access to their server.
Now, understand somthing. Just because the news server is maintained by a dial up ISP, you don't have to dial into it. With your DSL link active, you should be able to access the news server via the internet. Just provide your user name and authentication information just like you do now.
> The cheapest dial-up yields at least one busy signal every third day > and downloads 24-48 kbps.
> Another one rarely has a busy signal, downloads 24-48, and has a nice > Usenet server.
> The third one never has a busy signal but dowload speed never tops 28.
> Total monthly cost for all 3 is about the same as one DSL which is now > available here.
> Sure would like to have DSL to see video clips, youtube, etc.
> Unfortunately, the reports about DSL product reliability and lousy > support have scared me off.
DSL is much more reliable than either dial-up OR cable modem Internet service. At the same price, I'd choose a "slower" DSL connection over "faster" cable modem service, every time.
Lousy support is not tied to any particular technology. I've had better service with DSL than cable modem. In one case, I had to fix a problem with my cable modem MYSELF, as the cable company refused to believe that I had a problem...or more likely just wanted to play dumb, hoping I would shut up.
In short, cable modem is potentially faster, but download speed varies wildly depending on time of week and time of DAY. DSL is as fast as any normal Internet user would ever need (even for large downloads), and download speed never varies. Now watch someone state "but it's all shared bandwidth". Yes, and with DSL, the sharing happens far enough away from your individual modem that the sharing doesn't affect your download speed. Unlike cable modem which slows significantly when the neighborhood kids get home from school...
I can't wait until the local phone company FINALLY offers naked DSL so I can ditch my cable modem. Sigh...
The only thing to be aware of with DSL service is that you do NOT want to install any PPPOE software with your DSL service. Instead, get a broadband sharing router (good ones about thirty bucks?). That will maintain your DSL connection for you. That is, the PPPOE connection is initiated and maintained by firmware in the router (after you enter your DSL user name and password in the router setup menus ONCE). You should be using a router with any broadband Internet service, but it's especially important to get one for DSL, so that you don't have to install any extra software on your computer.
But with a router maintaining the PPPOE connection for you? You will LOVE DSL. -Dave
>>>> The cheapest dial-up yields at least one busy signal every third day >>>> and downloads 24-48 kbps.
>>>> Another one rarely has a busy signal, downloads 24-48, and has a > nice >>>> Usenet server.
>>>> The third one never has a busy signal but dowload speed never tops > 28. >>>> Total monthly cost for all 3 is about the same as one DSL which is > now >>>> available here.
>>>> Sure would like to have DSL to see video clips, youtube, etc.
>>>> Unfortunately, the reports about DSL product reliability and lousy >>>> support have scared me off. >>> Join the 21st Century and get DSL. Plenty of people have DSL >>> and never experience a problem. If you like Unenet, you may >>> want to keep the dialup that has the good usenet server. You may >>> be able to log into the server from your DSL connection. Try it >>> and see. >> Sure would like to.
>> Yeah, I understand that you can keep a dial-up for back up but need to >> remove the DSL stuff and revert to the dial-up wiring and connection >> set-up.
> Nope. They can co-exist. Dial up will still use your modem and the DUN > to establish the connection. DSL will use a NIC (network connection).
> I was thinking more in terms of maintianing access to the news server. > Most of the big national telcomms were blackmailed by NY state Atty > Como into dropping most of the news groups from their servers except > for the big eight hierarchies. So now it is necessary to have access > to a better news server if you want to get the alt groups. You can > buy into a priemium server it you like. But if the dialup ISP with > the good server is cheap enough, it may be worth it to maintain a > user account just to have access to their server.
> Now, understand somthing. Just because the news server is maintained > by a dial up ISP, you don't have to dial into it. With your DSL link > active, you should be a
