> > On Aug 14, 7:17 pm, maxwel...@my-deja.com wrote:

> > > On Aug 14, 9:34 pm, Buck Rogers <MyMa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > On Aug 14, 8:53 pm, maxwel...@my-deja.com wrote:

> > > > > On Aug 14, 12:05 pm, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:

> > > > > > On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:55:12 -0700, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > > >Let us all recall how McCain teamed with Ted Kennedy in an attempt to
> > > > > > >force legislation granting amnesty to illegal aliens. And just last
> > > > > > >week he warned Americans that illegals might "riot" if there was an
> > > > > > >attempt to deport them .Earlier this year McCain referred to illegal
> > > > > > >aliens as "god's children'. Not once has he mentioned the thousands of
> > > > > > >Americans butchered each year by his "god's children". Not once has he
> > > > > > >mentioned soaring welfare costs. Not once has he visited a town
> > > > > > >devastated by a flood of third worlders. McCain is an old race traitor,
> > > > > > >pure and simple. Obama is no better. But at least he has his race as
> > > > > > >an excuse. Many who detest McCain will not vote for Obama. Have fun,
> > > > > > >write-in your choice for President.

> > > > > > >ted

> > > > > Since McCain and Obama stand the same on this issue it is a mute
> > > > > point. Other things make Obama seem to be the better choice

> > > > =================
> > > >  That's true it your a Liberal wanting taxpayer handouts from
> > > > hard working Americans.  If you really wanted to help, bring
> > > > the dollar back to it's face value. Otherwise fuck off , your wasting
> > > > everyone's time with bullshit politics. Now stick that in Hussan
> > > > Obama's
> > > > bong pipe and smoke it !!

> > > The dollar has been sent to the toilet based on Bush's
> > > fiscal policy. The problem is there are too many
> > > dimwits that don't understand this. The US has
> > > gotten the same results as when Bush's daddy
> > > was in office.
> > > And as far as taxes go Obama is the only one
> > > talking about cutting them on middle class
> > > folks. McCain has been bought off if you
> > > have been paying attention.

> > How do you cut taxes on middle class folks without raising them on
> > someone else. We have a budget to balance, somebody has to pay the
> > price.

> > And the upper incomes already pay most of the tax. What will we do
> > when we run out of rich people to tax?

> > -Bill- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -

> Stop wasting money on unnecessary wars, also subsidies and kickbacks
> to corporations etc. Many of those just increase the cost, to
> Americans of goods that can be bought or produced more cheaply or from
> elsewhere.

> For example: Some farmer somewhere making a living because they can
> sell rice to the USA. In other words trading is good for everybody.
> And not likely we would dig up the White House gardens or the Pentagon
> parking lot to turn them into rice paddies!

> Militarily yes; the US should 'be prepared' in a way it was not when
> WWII struck, but should not waste billions on making non productive
> warfare and then trying to deal with the aftermath.

> Money spent on constructive aid and assistance, often although not
> always, not only raises American moral profile and the degree of
> cooperation from other nations but is often less costly than the "Aw
> hell; let's nuke it" attitude of many. That does not solve anything
> any more than Pearl harbour did, for the Japanese or anyone else!

> Not only the dollar but world respect for the USA has gone down; very
> much, since the days of post WWII when a the USA was a generous
> victor, instituting, for example the Marshal Plan, forgiving war loans
> to rebuild devastated nations who today have standards of living often
> equal to North Americans and with whom we compete for goods and trade.
> And not just talking low wage nations here; but those where wages and
> salaries are comparable, taxes higher and government services often
> much better and more universal than in the US.

> BTW. Since when (in the USA) has the word 'liberal' (Small 'l') become
> bad. Strictly speaking "liberal" means having an open minded,
> unbiased, objective and generous outlook. That sounds typically
> American and is a fairly 'Christian' outlook, to use one expression,
> if you think about it. But these days it's used by some almost as that
> nut-cake Sen. Mccarthy, did the word 'Commie', back in the 50s!

> Also BTW: Some countries have 'Liberal' (And Labour) governments (Note
> the capital 'L'). And they seem to work very well. Some are members of
> the European Union, the UK, Ireland, Norway etc.

> Anyway think on these things when it's time to vote. Vote with your
> head; not on some emotional, religious biased or racist basis. Good
> luck America. Right now it is needed!- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

>> > On Aug 14, 7:17 pm, maxwel...@my-deja.com wrote:

>> > > On Aug 14, 9:34 pm, Buck Rogers <MyMa...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> > > > On Aug 14, 8:53 pm, maxwel...@my-deja.com wrote:

>> > > > > On Aug 14, 12:05 pm, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:

>> > > > > > On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:55:12 -0700, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> > > > > > >Let us all recall how McCain teamed with Ted Kennedy in an attempt to
>> > > > > > >force legislation granting amnesty to illegal aliens. And just last
>> > > > > > >week he warned Americans that illegals might "riot" if there was an
>> > > > > > >attempt to deport them .Earlier this year McCain referred to illegal
>> > > > > > >aliens as "god's children'. Not once has he mentioned the thousands of
>> > > > > > >Americans butchered each year by his "god's children". Not once has he
>> > > > > > >mentioned soaring welfare costs. Not once has he visited a town
>> > > > > > >devastated by a flood of third worlders. McCain is an old race traitor,
>> > > > > > >pure and simple. Obama is no better. But at least he has his race as
>> > > > > > >an excuse. Many who detest McCain will not vote for Obama. Have fun,
>> > > > > > >write-in your choice for President.

>> > > > > > >ted

>> > > > > Since McCain and Obama stand the same on this issue it is a mute
>> > > > > point. Other things make Obama seem to be the better choice

>> > > > =================
>> > > >  That's true it your a Liberal wanting taxpayer handouts from
>> > > > hard working Americans.  If you really wanted to help, bring
>> > > > the dollar back to it's face value. Otherwise fuck off , your wasting
>> > > > everyone's time with bullshit politics. Now stick that in Hussan
>> > > > Obama's
>> > > > bong pipe and smoke it !!

>> > > The dollar has been sent to the toilet based on Bush's
>> > > fiscal policy. The problem is there are too many
>> > > dimwits that don't understand this. The US has
>> > > gotten the same results as when Bush's daddy
>> > > was in office.
>> > > And as far as taxes go Obama is the only one
>> > > talking about cutting them on middle class
>> > > folks. McCain has been bought off if you
>> > > have been paying attention.

>> > How do you cut taxes on middle class folks without raising them on
>> > someone else. We have a budget to balance, somebody has to pay the
>> > price.

>> > And the upper incomes already pay most of the tax. What will we do
>> > when we run out of rich people to tax?

>> > -Bill- Hide quoted text -

>> > - Show quoted text -

>> Stop wasting money on unnecessary wars, also subsidies and kickbacks
>> to corporations etc. Many of those just increase the cost, to
>> Americans of goods that can be bought or produced more cheaply or from
>> elsewhere.

>> For example: Some farmer somewhere making a living because they can
>> sell rice to the USA. In other words trading is good for everybody.
>> And not likely we would dig up the White House gardens or the Pentagon
>> parking lot to turn them into rice paddies!

>> Militarily yes; the US should 'be prepared' in a way it was not when
>> WWII struck, but should not waste billions on making non productive
>> warfare and then trying to deal with the aftermath.

>> Money spent on constructive aid and assistance, often although not
>> always, not only raises American moral profile and the degree of
>> cooperation from other nations but is often less costly than the "Aw
>> hell; let's nuke it" attitude of many. That does not solve anything
>> any more than Pearl harbour did, for the Japanese or anyone else!

>> Not only the dollar but world respect for the USA has gone down; very
>> much, since the days of post WWII when a the USA was a generous
>> victor, instituting, for example the Marshal Plan, forgiving war loans
>> to rebuild devastated nations who today have standards of living often
>> equal to North Americans and with whom we compete for goods and trade.
>> And not just talking low wage nations here; but those where wages and
>> salaries are comparable, taxes higher and government services often
>> much better and more universal than in the US.

>> BTW. Since when (in the USA) has the word 'liberal' (Small 'l') become
>> bad. Strictly speaking "liberal" means having an open minded,
>> unbiased, objective and generous outlook. That sounds typically
>> American and is a fairly 'Christian' outlook, to use one expression,
>> if you think about it. But these days it's used by some almost as that
>> nut-cake Sen. Mccarthy, did the word 'Commie', back in the 50s!

>> Also BTW: Some countries have 'Liberal' (And Labour) governments (Note
>> the capital 'L'). And they seem to work very well. Some are members of
>> the European Union, the UK, Ireland, Norway etc.

>> Anyway think on these things when it's time to vote. Vote with your
>> head; not on some emotional, religious biased or racist basis. Good
>> luck America. Right now it is needed!- Hide quoted text -

>> - Show quoted text -
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>  You liberals talk about "War Bad", but you don't really know what the
> hell your talking about.

> It's sad that this once great nation is politicly handcuffed by a
> bunch of leftwing morons !!
> If Obama wins I see the draft coming , it's for there own good !