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Peter Knutsen  
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 More options Aug 21, 1:48 pm
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From: Peter Knutsen <pe...@sagatafl.invalid>
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:48:43 +0200
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Subject: Fantasy with actual Celtic druids?
Where are the druids, in written fantasy? And I mean *real* druids; not
hippie tree-huggers that call themselves druids and happes to know the
exact same spells as D&D says that druids know.

Druids in historical fantasy would make the most sense, but
non-historical fantasy is welcome as well.

I tried English Wikipedia, and finally managed to find a list-of-druids,
but the only druid in the "fictional" section was Getafix, the druid
from the Asterix comics. That wasn't very helpful.

There are druids in Bradley's "Mists of Avalon", and there's Taliesin in
Bradshaw's "Hawk of May" except he's only a bard, not a druid (druids
are also referred to in one of Bradshaw's historicals, but they never
appear on-screen). I can't really recall any others at all...

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David DeLaney  
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 More options Aug 21, 11:57 am
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From: d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:57:59 -0400
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Subject: Re: Fantasy with actual Celtic druids?

Peter Knutsen <pe...@sagatafl.invalid> wrote:
>Where are the druids, in written fantasy? And I mean *real* druids; not
>hippie tree-huggers that call themselves druids and happes to know the
>exact same spells as D&D says that druids know.
...
>There are druids in Bradley's "Mists of Avalon", and there's Taliesin in
>Bradshaw's "Hawk of May" except he's only a bard, not a druid (druids
>are also referred to in one of Bradshaw's historicals, but they never
>appear on-screen). I can't really recall any others at all...

Are you counting the ones ... I'm sure they're there, though I don't remember
them precisely ... in Patricia Kennealy(-Morrison)'s series?

David Farland has druidish wizards...

Dave


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Cece  
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 More options Aug 21, 4:11 pm
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From: Cece <ceceliaarmstr...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:11:45 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Fantasy with actual Celtic druids?
On Aug 21, 10:57 am, d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney) wrote:

Are there Druids in Anderson's King of Ys series?

What about the second book of the Centurion series by Damion Hunter
(real name Amanda Cockrell), Barbarian Princess?


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Dorothy J Heydt  
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 More options Aug 21, 4:39 pm
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From: djhe...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:39:11 GMT
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Subject: Re: Fantasy with actual Celtic druids?
In article <48adaa7c$0$90264$14726...@news.sunsite.dk>,
Peter Knutsen  <pe...@sagatafl.invalid> wrote:

There's Balasius in Mary Stewart's _The Crystal Cave._  A real
creep.

Dorothy J. Heydt
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Johnny Tindalos  
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 More options Aug 21, 4:46 pm
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From: Johnny Tindalos <Jamai...@UnrealEmail.arg>
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:46:37 -0500
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Subject: Re: Fantasy with actual Celtic druids?
Peter Knutsen <pe...@sagatafl.invalid> wrote in news:48adaa7c$0$90264
$14726...@news.sunsite.dk:

There might be some in Robert Holdstock's Celtica series (well, there are
various Celts in it...) but I haven't finished the third volume (which
had *lots* of Celts, I think) and I can't recall whether there are any
actual druids in the series; I'm afraid it wasn't as good as it often
gave the impression that it could have been.

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Andrew Plotkin  
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 More options Aug 21, 5:38 pm
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From: Andrew Plotkin <erkyr...@eblong.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:38:41 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: Re: Fantasy with actual Celtic druids?
Here, Peter Knutsen <pe...@sagatafl.invalid> wrote:

> Where are the druids, in written fantasy? And I mean *real* druids; not
> hippie tree-huggers that call themselves druids and happes to know the
> exact same spells as D&D says that druids know.

A druid wanders by in John M. Ford's _Growing Up Weightless_. Also
_Web of Angels_.

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Garrett Wollman  
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 More options Aug 21, 6:46 pm
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From: woll...@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:46:36 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: Re: Fantasy with actual Celtic druids?
In article <48adaa7c$0$90264$14726...@news.sunsite.dk>,
Peter Knutsen  <pe...@sagatafl.invalid> wrote:

>Where are the druids, in written fantasy? And I mean *real* druids;

Madeleine L'Engle, /An Acceptable Time/, if memory serves me
correctly.

-GAWollman

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David DeLaney  
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 More options Aug 21, 5:54 pm
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From: d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:54:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Fantasy with actual Celtic druids?

Garrett Wollman <woll...@bimajority.org> wrote:
>Peter Knutsen  <pe...@sagatafl.invalid> wrote:
>>Where are the druids, in written fantasy? And I mean *real* druids;

>Madeleine L'Engle, /An Acceptable Time/, if memory serves me correctly.

Oh, oh, and a much more recent series, ... hang on, lemme read through
part of my booklist ...

<time passes; Dave starts reading backwards>

Okay, by Mark del Franco, two books so far: unshapely things, unquiet dreams
- Connor Grey is a magically-crippled druid who's investigating Stuff, and
there's entire organizations of druids nearby, and they're not typical D&D
druids _or_ the oldstyle Celtic 'sacrifice them when needed and the gods will
sort things out' druids either.

(You know you have Too Many Books when you can get an idea of where to start
looking in your booklist by visualizing approximately _where_ in Waldenbooks
you generally see the book in question.)

Dave

PS: I need more Holt.
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Elaine Thompson  
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 More options Aug 21, 9:27 pm
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From: Elaine Thompson <Ela...@KEThompson.org>
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:27:41 -0700
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Subject: Re: Fantasy with actual Celtic druids?
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:48:43 +0200, Peter Knutsen

I'm pretty sure there's one in John Myers Myers _Moon's Fire-Eating
Daughter_.  And I know there's one in the same author's vaguely
historical novel _Harp and Blade_.  (He's sort of why the story
happens, IIRC.)

GG Kay's YSABEL has one.

There ought to be one in Mildred Downey Broxon's _Too Long a
Sacrifice_  as well as in Jo Walton's _Prize in the Game_ but I don't
remember any actually being in either of those.

Any retelling of the Deirdre story should have at least one druid.  

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Gene  
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 More options Aug 21, 9:28 pm
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From: Gene <g...@chewbacca.org>
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:28:21 GMT
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Subject: Re: Fantasy with actual Celtic druids?
d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney) rote in
news:slrngas3q5.d14.dbd@gatekeeper.vic.com:

> Garrett Wollman <woll...@bimajority.org> wrote:
>>Peter Knutsen  <pe...@sagatafl.invalid> wrote:
>>>Where are the druids, in written fantasy? And I mean *real* druids;

>>Madeleine L'Engle, /An Acceptable Time/, if memory serves me correctly.

> Oh, oh, and a much more recent series, ... hang on, lemme read through

* part of my booklist ...

OK, now where are the Druish princesses in written fantasy?


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mimus  
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From: mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:39:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Fantasy with actual Celtic druids?

They feature as part of the various societies in Vance's "Lyonesse"
trilogy, _Suldrun's Garden_, _The Green Pearl_ and _Madouc_.

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Howard Brazee  
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 More options Aug 21, 10:22 pm
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From: Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net>
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:22:00 -0600
Subject: Re: Fantasy with actual Celtic druids?
I remember a novel where Queen Victoria is a Druid queen.  I'm not
thinking of its name.

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